
Ben Granger
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Aug 26, 2026
How to be the leader people trust in an age of AI
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Michelle MartinHOST
Why are we willing to give someone we trust the benefit of the doubt after they mess up and, you know, hopefully repair the relationship?

Ben GrangerGUEST
Well, th-this has been, I think, one of my favorite findings from some of our research is that when consumers say they trust the organizations they do business with, when employees say they trust their leaders, in other words, they see them as competent, they see them as having integrity and consistent, they see them as benevolent.

Ben GrangerGUEST
When those companies and those leaders slip up, 'cause none of us are perfect, right? We're gonna mess up every now and then.

Ben GrangerGUEST
But I think the key in that trust equation, you know, as we've talked about competence, integrity, and benevolence, I think the key really is benevolence and showing somebody that when I make decisions, when I do things, I, um, I keep you in mind.

Michelle MartinHOST
I wonder what role you think the kind of communication that we're all relying on now, the emails, the chat groups, um, the, the chatbots, how is communication playing into the kind of connection that we have at work or our sense of control?
Why Pulling Beats Pushing in the Modern Workplace: Benjamin Granger
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Dani JohnsonHOST
How would an organization go about doing that? And as a follow-up, who's responsible for making sure that happens?

Ben GrangerGUEST
That's a good question, 'cause I think some people would say it's everybody's responsibility, but I think it's well said, if it's everybody's responsibility, then it's no one's, and I think that's very real.
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Building A Leadership Framework Backed By Data | Benjamin Granger | 728
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Ben GrangerGUEST
We just do that today in what we call companies and organizations, but it, I think we gle- we glean a lot if we go way back in time to look at how did the human brain evolve, why did it evolve the way it does, and a lot of it has to do with us being a social species.

Ben GrangerGUEST
So evolutionary hangovers have to do with, well, why do we engage in all this automatic judgment of people? You know, if we run into a mean person in the street, and we, and they, and they, they say something rude to us, or we're dealing with a customer and they lash out at us, and we say, "Man, what an abrasive person," or, "What a rude person." Well, that's a cognitive bias, and what I call an evolutionary hangover.

Ben GrangerGUEST
Essentially, it's something that developed over evolutionary time for a very good reason, but in modern business settings and modern social settings, it can sometimes cause problems, just like hangovers.
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