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Ben Gilliland

Author and science writer

Aug 11, 2026

26:02
How did you get into that now?
26:05
Actually, it was totally by accident.
26:07
There was a guy that I had met in California.
26:09
He moved over there.
26:10
He said...
26:11
You know, he basically kinda recruited me into it.
26:14
And so as a result of that, you know, I worked with him for a while, and then I've basically kinda developed my own stable of clients.
29:51
Well, now describe the stress of being in that world where it's travel-
6:26
And I thought what would be interesting, Ben, is to really understand, like, what is the magnitude of the impact that we're about to face? And are we as leaders ready for it? Because it's going to be pretty vast and pretty diverse in how AI disrupts our normal everyday lives.
6:48
I've written a lot of articles and several white papers for some AI companies that were like four years ago, back kind of before AI came out of the mists and becomes such a pervasive aspect of today's conversation.
7:05
And a lot of people, I don't think, really understand, first of all, the technology.
7:12
I think the scientists that are building it are still trying to figure out some key parts of it themselves.
7:18
Like something fundamentally like, how does it really work? Why does it do what it does? And they're trying to scope that in a lot tighter.
7:27
But the implications socially and economically that we've tracked on this, and I've got some collaborators that do a lot of research work for me, is the fact that it's going to touch everybody's life.
7:42
um the last great disruption that we had was 50 years ago now which was the china crisis when we offshored all of our manufacturing and when you look at the the general workforce that affected a very small slice generally speaking you know and but in this particular case um the projections that we've built and we've got three different models that we've kind of uh keep up to date on it all the time.

10 MINS LATER

18:15
I mean, foundationally, when we talk about education, like we've already given up the high ground on even foundational and fundamental stuff, right? I mean- Well, we
6:26
And I thought what would be interesting, Ben, is to really understand, like, what is the magnitude of the impact that we're about to face? And are we as leaders ready for it? Because it's going to be pretty vast and pretty diverse in how AI disrupts our normal everyday lives.
6:48
I've written a lot of articles and several white papers for some AI companies that were like four years ago, back kind of before AI came out of the mists and becomes such a pervasive aspect of today's conversation.
7:05
And a lot of people, I don't think, really understand, first of all, the technology.
7:12
I think the scientists that are building it are still trying to figure out some key parts of it themselves.
7:18
Like something fundamentally like, how does it really work? Why does it do what it does? And they're trying to scope that in a lot tighter.
7:27
But the implications socially and economically that we've tracked on this, and I've got some collaborators that do a lot of research work for me, is the fact that it's going to touch everybody's life.
7:42
The last great disruption that we had was 50 years ago now, which was the China crisis, when we offshored all of our manufacturing.

10 MINS LATER

18:15
I mean, foundationally, when we talk about education, like we've already given up the high ground on even foundational and fundamental stuff, right? I mean, it's- Well, we
6:26
And I thought what would be interesting, Ben, is to really understand, like, what is the magnitude of the impact that we're about to face? And are we as leaders ready for it? Because it's going to be pretty vast and pretty diverse in how AI disrupts our normal everyday lives.
6:48
I've written a lot of articles and several white papers for some AI companies that were like four years ago, back kind of before AI came out of the mists and becomes such a pervasive aspect of today's conversation.
7:05
And a lot of people, I don't think, really understand, first of all, the technology.
7:12
I think the scientists that are building it are still trying to figure out some key parts of it themselves.
7:18
Like something fundamentally like, how does it really work? Why does it do what it does? And they're trying to scope that in a lot tighter.
7:27
But the implications socially and economically that we've tracked on this, and I've got some collaborators that do a lot of research work for me, is the fact that it's going to touch everybody's life.
7:42
um the last great disruption that we had was 50 years ago now which was the china crisis when we offshored all of our manufacturing and when you look at the the general workforce that affected a very small slice generally speaking you know and but in this particular case um the projections that we've built and we've got three different models that we've kind of uh keep up to date on it all the time.

10 MINS LATER

18:15
I mean, foundationally, when we talk about education, like we've already given up the high ground on even foundational and fundamental stuff, right? I mean- Well, we
CodyHOST
3:10
What's a truth in your industry that people do not want to admit?
3:15
that probably that it will happen to them.
3:21
Americans are very, very good about slipping into denial.
3:26
And it's one of these things to where it's kind of like, well, I know that Jake's house up the street got taken out by the tornado, but that's not going to happen to my house.
3:36
Somehow or another, you're immune to Mother Nature's wrath.
3:41
And what it comes down to is it's like it's a casino.
3:45
So you take the attitude, I'm just going to push all my chips into the middle, which is your house.

13 MINS LATER

CodyHOST
16:32
What did you need to feel in order to do that bail?
25:40
And I think
25:41
that the message that we keep trying to project to people, and that is that we support people trying to remediate the carbons.
25:49
in the atmosphere that's causing the heat, that's causing the oceans to be warmer, which is causing all the weather to change.
25:55
And it's all interconnected.
25:57
Mother Nature only wears one dress.
25:59
It has lots of pockets, you know? And so all these things, they'll work together.
26:03
And in our particular case, if people will, again, let me backtrack a second.

13 MINS LATER

39:06
So Ben, what is it about Future Proof or yourself I've not asked you that you want the audience to know about?

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