What was the context of the shift as you either went through seminary or after seminary or why, maybe why that change of tradition?

Yeah, really the move.

And we just, we kind of just landed where we landed.

And during the move, we were not close enough.

to the inner workings.

We didn't serve at our church in Fort Collins.

We attended, and I went to youth group sporadically.

And yeah, so maybe give me a starting point, if you can, about as you think about these different parts of our culture, the church's role in these spaces, given kind of where we are today in these