
Ben Gaffney
Deputy General Counsel at OpenAI, leading legal teams for AI policy, regulations, international, privacy, and competition.
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Aug 26, 2026
Foundation Models Go Vertical with leaders from Open AI, Mistral, Clarify and Oumi
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Boaz AshkenazyHOST
So, you know, from a regulatory standpoint, what's happening there? Why are we seeing that right now from your perspective?

Ben GaffneyGUEST
So there's sort of like the competitive level, and then there's sort of at the regulatory or government level.

Ben GaffneyGUEST
You know, as I think probably everyone here is aware, you know, the Trump administration has a lot of concern about just overall U.S. being competitive with China.

Ben GaffneyGUEST
You know, one level of concern is China taking a strategic approach similar to what they've done in many industries, like, you know, whether it's green energy or rare earths minerals or that kind of thing, where they try to release a lot of product at a very cheap level, make it so it's not competitive.
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Boaz AshkenazyHOST
What are you seeing right now in the enterprise? And what do they want out of foundation models? What are some of the misconceptions they have about frontier labs when you talk to the C-level or folks that are making those decisions?