Yeah

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I think has been unsustainable, a-and we can come back to that.

But I do think that Australia, and I've had the, I've had the opportunity to go along to a few citizenship ceremonies in Brisbane City Council, and Brisbane City Council does it at City Hall, and, uh, you, you're talking hundreds of people at the same time with probably thousands in the audience watching.

And it is an interesting experience to go along to because it does remind you of the values of Australian citizenship, but als-also the value that the new Australians place on citizenship.

And I think what we need to do as a society i-is probably lift the bar in terms of the way that we value Australian citizenship as well.

And there's certain things that we should say, "Hey, these are non-negotiables." And I think English i-is a great example there, that w- that i-if you can't speak English, we need you to speak to a certain level of, o-of English, so it means that you can communicate with your fellow Australians.

Mm

And

I would argue probably including – A lot of boomers, I mean, if you were a renter, as a baby boomer, you'd be feeling just as much pain as some of the younger generations for sure.

What is positive though is that the status quo is being disrupted and that means the contest of ideas is back.

So it's no longer about It's no longer going to be workable for a small target strategy.

You're going to have to actually contest the ground again to win people over.

And that contest of ideas is going to start churning out a different vision for Australia.

Yeah.

and

Yeah

...

I think has been unsustainable, a-and we can come back to that.

But I do think that Australia, and I've had the, I've had the opportunity to go along to a few citizenship ceremonies in Brisbane City Council, and Brisbane City Council does it at City Hall, and, uh, you, you're talking hundreds of people at the same time with probably thousands in the audience watching.

And it is an interesting experience to go along to because it does remind you of the values of Australian citizenship, but als-also the value that the new Australians place on citizenship.

And I think what we need to do as a society is, is probably lift the bar in terms of the way that we value Australian citizenship as well.

And there's certain things that we should say, "Hey, these are non-negotiables." And I think English i-is a great example there, that we-- that if you can't speak English, we need you to speak to a certain level of, of English, so it means that you can communicate with your fellow Australians.

Mm