And when you realized that, Ben, was there anything available to you, any sort of wellbeing or mental health support? Or was it stiff up a lip, uh, dark humor, uh, and just get on with it?

Absolutely.

And it, it was.

I, I look back now, there was nothing.

Um, and it was almost like you just went to these jobs, and there was a bit of dark humor and banter between colleagues.

Um, and you would just, you know, you'd go to some horrendous sudden deaths, and, you know, you were just expected just to sort of get on with it and move on.

I look back thinking, "How on earth did I do it? How on earth did we all do it?" Um, but I guess we just did.

Are there any signs that we should be looking out for, for those that we know in the police or the emergency services that might indicate that the job they're doing is taking a toll on their mental health?