What was the moment you looked at the path you we- were on and realized it wasn't gonna get you where you wanted it to go?

Well, [laughs] I was doing fi-fi work.

I, I was m- sort of homeless at the time.

I'd just stay in, in, um, you know, Airbnbs or, or hotels and stuff when I'd get home.

You know, only home once, once a month.

And, uh, I was gonna buy a house, and I couldn't justify it.

I couldn't justify spending all that money for something that I'm not gonna be in.

Yep