Yeah.

[laughs] Yes, he is a different, different guy.

Different, uh, different first name with a B.

Uh, it's also, uh, we love the point, guys, that, uh, the Battle of Yorktown is seen as a climactic titular event, obviously, right? But, uh, it is important to remember that things continued, as you said, for several years.

And, and one of the facts, uh, no, I don't know about you, man, but one of the facts that's gonna stick with me here is, uh, when you, Pat, portrayed the Revolutionary War here in the US as a facet of a larger world war.

Is it fair to call that era of conflict the First World War?

I guess so.

[laughs] I imagine so, yes.

Is there a world in which this could have, I don't know, been blown over or no one figured it out or whatever and Ferrari just continues on and gets that coveted championship that at that point they were going on, you know, almost a decade and a half at that point without having won? Yeah.

Gosh, that's a great question, Lily.

And I love this kind of hypothesizing.

That's quite a rabbit hole because, you know, the fact that FIA went with a settlement that they kept private, even from the other race teams, that's what kept me captivated on this.

Actually, and I remember when the statement first came out, what we were arguing about a lot during that time was how many other teams... hypothetically, allegedly, I want to be careful, don't sue us, were doing something quite similar, right? Obviously, whatever was happening, Ferrari did it best, if not first, right? They figured out how to bypass the sensor.

That's the quiet part out loud.

However, it is also quite possible that some other teams had sussed this out and not reported it.

And I do want to ask you, Ben, do you think there is a path for a return to form for Ferrari to those Michael Schumacher days? Or are we still going to be sort of – mucking through this? Or do they find themselves in another bit of a conspiracy allegation corner situation?

Just Ameri- Thai American?

Yeah.

Yeah, just so.

And they did it as part of this concentrated, uh, to your questions there, a, a concentrated thing under what we call the Thaksin administration, T-H-A-K-S-I-N, uh, to make Thailand more front of mind for people around the world.

They called it Kitchen of the World.

So they would give you sweetheart loans, right? They would give you advice on how to cook things like pad see ew or pad Thai, and then they would also say, "Here's how you make it.

Here is a great deal on the ingredients.

That's why.

I don't

know that they got it wrong.

I think the right, even through Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell's relationship with Reddit and 4chan, Pushed that stuff out, but blamed the other side to deflect it from them.

Because the same thing was going on with the Epstein Files.

They put out just enough bad stuff to be like, look, we did the thing.

We gave you the bad stuff.

But they didn't give you the real bad stuff.

Do you

So, we were asked to be guests on an episode of a wonderful show called Creature Feature, um, which is hosted by the wonderfully smart and funny Katie Golden.

Yes.

And we had such a great time on this show, uh, we don't want to spoil too much of it for you, but we had such a great time on this show that at the end of it, we, uh, irascible scoundrels that we are, said, "Hey, Katie, is it cool if we publish this episode on our feed as well so that more of our listeners can find out about Creature Feature and all the neat, strange stuff you dive into?" So, what is Creature Feature? Well, it's this, uh, it's this brand new podcast from How Stuff Works that takes a, quote, "Critter's eye view" to explore how animal behavior parallels human behavior.

And we entered into a dark, yet paradoxically illuminating exploration of something called the dark tetrad.

It's pretty gnarly 'cause you see this, uh, wasp attach itself to the tarantula and then there's a scuffle and then the tarantula slowly starts to go very still and that's when the dread sets in.

Yeah, it was, it was...

As, as you were walking us through this process I was watching a, a video of a child who is watching this intense death match and kidnapping abduction burial of a tarantula and even the kid seems to think this is, this is a little brutal.

You can see the tarantula attempt to escape-

... you can arrive at, but-

But I agree with you, uh, it was a weird escalation.

And, uh, here in the fair metropolis of Atlanta, we get a lot of heat, uh, from Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Uh, I'm not sure who is voting for this person, and it's a study in the increasingly, like, wrestling-level era of politics.

Hey.

Calling myself, uh, In a Burst of Creativity, @benbolin.

Uh, you can hang out on Stuff They Don't Want You to Know.

You can find us on, uh, Ridiculous History, uh, guest hosting on Wrongful Conviction: The US Justice System is Broken, uh, so we do, on that show, talk with people who have managed to escape being falsely convicted for crimes they did not commit.

Where'd you guys land?

(laughs) Re-, uh, you're right.

There's clearly always going to be some kind of technological discrepancy, right, between what, what classified technology can reach and what the public knows about.

That's a given.

Uh, I think we often overestimate the chasm between those two things, uh, but I can say it seems like there's, there's something weird about it, but I'm still on the fence because the, the reporting is very much jam yesterday, jam tomorrow, but never ever jam today.

You know, disclosure as a concept seems to be conveniently trotted out as a don't pay attention to this hand-

Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff?

Yeah, you can check us out on Stuff They Don't Want You to Know.

What is something you think is underrated, Ben Bean?

Uh, [laughs] well, uh, Jake, uh, weirdly specific words in English.

Right? Sophia, you earlier mentioned, you said, "Hey, maybe this is a thing for you guys being weird, 'cause I'm not from the States." Uh, I think we all can, uh, as you were both quite talented, quite talented with the gift of gab, I think we can all appreciate that the English language is not unique in its cartoonish amount of words, but it is like in the top three of, uh, languages that have words with zero reason to use them.

You know what I mean?

Uh, and is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

Yes.

Uh, I...

Ah, I know not everybody loves sketch comedy, but I do.

But can you do another? Mm-hmm.

Oh, oh, uh, sure.

Other than Rent Ablood, which is clearly our main focus, uh, for both of these episodes, uh, please check out Stuff They Don't Want You to Know, which applies critical thinking to allegations of conspiracy.

Please check out Ridiculous History where you can hear our own friend Robert, uh, Evans.

Robert, pause, uh, Evans.

You like that?

(laughs) Yes, yes.

Just checking.

Nice.

All right. Yeah, so learned about that, and then thought of you guys when I was looking into another thing about astrology and government, like how the, the world powers will often consult low-key with astrologers to determine timing of policy. At this point, I have to ask you guys, what's your sign?

Mm-hmm.

... they moved their entire fucking capital to a new place that had not been built because an astrologer told them they needed to avoid a disaster. So for true believers, this becomes interesting because three years later in 2008, the biggest natural disaster in all of the nation's history of Myanmar, uh, it hit the location of the old capital. So people were, again, convinced that there was some sort of discernible, predictable pattern in the stars. For a lot of us in the zeitgang, zeitgang-looking-