Ben, would you like

to go? I would love to go.

You mean take my turn? I was recently in the city of Detroit in the great state of Michigan.

I had never visited and it is a great city.

I really enjoyed my time there.

I went to eat at a bunch of places, restaurants.

None of which were great.

Ben? Chris? What's your favorite pizza? I'm here for jokes and japes.

Thank you.

I think there is, I've, I've talked to people and this is related to that.

I've talked to people over the years who are like, you've done, you know, I've probably done about a thousand episodes also.

And they're like, I tell them like, if you were to start listening from the beginning, you would hear my career as a writer.

You would hear autobiography because my early questions are about what should I write? What's a good sample? How do I have a meeting? You know, a couple of years later is what do you do when you get fired? Right.

Stuff like that.

Tell me about pitching on OWAs, which I had that conversation last week and it was helpful.

Does that sound right?