Does it change how women who aren't rangers perceive themselves? Has it, do you think, shifted gender perception within the community in general?

Yes.

The community now have got that picture of, um, us as women.

We can do what men can do because during those days, back then, us as women, even myself, we are afraid.

We thought maybe that this industry is, um, it's a all men, but now I'm coming to a point where I can understand that I can even do better.

I can help there.

[laughs] Um, speaking of your story, could you briefly tell me your story of how it started from bush camp and the, what you discovered as a 12-year-old girl?

Okay.Oh, when I was in grade six, I was, uh, 11 years old.