So

I think I had an awareness, but it wasn't, I don't know.

It's hard to explain because it's something I grew up with my whole life.

Right.

It's the only thing you knew.

Exactly.

Is

And the fact that you guys get to work together, can you explain to people how cool it is and how much joy you get out of being this close to your dad?

So

I think I had an awareness, but it wasn't, I don't know.

It's hard to explain because it's something I grew up with my whole life.

It's the only thing you knew.

Exactly.

Is

things

like this with him and to talk about projects that we've been working on for a while and also to get to be on this side of it because I feel like growing up I was just a spectator but now I have more of a role in the things that he's creating so to get to create together is really fun.

So

I think I had an awareness, but it wasn't, I don't know.

It's hard to explain because it's something I grew up with my whole life.

Right.

It's the only thing you knew.

Exactly.

Is

things

So

I think I had an awareness, but it wasn't, I don't know.

It's hard to explain because it's something I grew up with my whole life.

Right.

It's the only thing you knew.

Exactly.

Is

things

So

I think I had an awareness, but it wasn't, I don't know.

It's hard to explain because it's something I grew up with my whole life.

Right.

It's the only thing you knew.

Exactly.

Is

things

So what inspired to have you as Ben as a football player? Let's talk about that.

Yes.

So football was like my love language with my dad.

My dad is British.

Moved to Seattle when he was just out of university.

And so he's like British.

He's very loving, but not in a... demonstrative way.

It's all been taken away.

... someone's neck snaps? Is it really the fault? Like, can they be tried? Like, what are the legalities behind that and-

I did, interestingly enough, uh, a friend of my husband's from, uh, you know, boarding school is now the chief legal officer at the NFL.

I had already written the manuscript when I talked to him, uh, and sort of, you know, and I knew a bit about the legalities just because I had been, I had been a manager, um, for my college football team when I was there.

It was sort of a accidental thing I stumbled into that turned out to kinda transform my life and the course of my life.

Uh, and, uh, and I did know, I still have, I'm in, you know, contact with a number of my old teammates, uh, one of whom helped, uh, choreograph this play, uh, that takes place in that first scene.

And so there is, you know, you're basically protected.

Like, this is a game, and there's an assumption of risk, and, and again, I, I have not gone to law school, so I'm not going to give you the correct legal terms here, but there is assump- there is this sorta presumption of risk and that this is a risky, just like when you're horseback riding and things.

... how did you, how did you fall into that, and how did it change your life?

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Hi, I'm, uh, Beatrice Williams.

Uh, my book is called When You Loved Me.

Hey, and, uh, it's out, uh, June 23rd, uh, which is, I guess, five weeks from almost today, tomorrow.

Uh, and it's about a young widow.

Uh, she returns with her daughter to the New England island where she grew up in the wake of her father's death.

She goes to settle his estate and discovers a trail of breadcrumbs leading to a pirate treasure-

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