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I didn't come up with any of this.

Uh, but top elbow and bottom elbow, uh, is important.

And I think that what's interesting is we had a coach in our club years ago who told me one day, "Well, I teach kids to pass their hands apart first and then put them together late." And, and I never-- I don't think I was ever nice enough to this coach because I was like, "You know, I hadn't said that out loud ever, but I want that too." Uh, and people who put their hands together early end up being in a really bad spot, and we teach everybody to pass with their hands together in the middle of their body f- first.

That is if you are nine years old, you are sure as anything gonna be standing there with your hands together, and you're gonna try and pass it.

And so then when it goes to the side, well, you're gonna have your hands together then too, and you're gonna swing them over to the side.

And you're gonna swing them, and there's no way in the world you're gonna have your back shoulder high enough and your front shoulder low enough to make a wall.

He's gonna see some things that make him cringe through all of the gyms he's been in and all the club tournaments." So give me a couple examples of things that when you walk into a gym or a club tournament that make you cringe.

So when you talk about fun, though, besides your dynamic personality, what else do you got going for you over there to make it fun?

Well, I think that, uh, y- you gotta play.

I mean, you gotta play a lot.

I am, I'm a pretty firm believer in that's the way we're gonna get better at doing this.

And I think that, uh, the less experienced you are, the less you need to be doing lots and lots of skill work.

I think that that sounds sort of backwards to a lot of people.

But if I said, "You know, you don't even really understand what the point of the activity is.

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