well mandy you are trying to watch birds and document sightings whenever you can get a sighting under the under the conditions but you're also spreading awareness about birds and conservation in that tragically beset environment i wonder what kind of reception you get from people in your efforts

She says like when they started back in a few years ago, people didn't accept or like they thought the idea is silly that women at their age are following birds to take pictures of them.

But then after some time, people started like noticing they are taking pictures of some interesting birds, they are raising awareness.

like even not just inside Gaza, but also to outside, like other people are just starting to know that there's biodiversity, there's lots of microscopic birds passing in Gaza.

So they think slowly they're making an impact, but there's still a long way to go.

And one of the examples she gave that after sometimes people, when they see any species, and yes and ask them and try to describe what they saw to like try to figure out what they saw so people are a little bit interested in what's around them in terms of biodiversity and like bird diversity and so on and even some of them started caring about protecting their migratory birds and preventing any hunting

I mean, our Lord always gives us gifts.

They say that they always have some optimism for what's coming.