yeah everyone learns differently right some people love a video some people need an in-person session it's different horses different courses so after your time on the shop floor understand you went to patronus do you want to tell me a little bit about what it was you did there and what that experience added to your repertoire

So at Petronas, I started working there as a line worker.

I was part of not the technical team, but we were the operators who operated the filling lines.

So making sure that the oil produced by Petronas lubricants were in all of the bottles shapes you want customers to have them going from one liter to the whole bulk and IBC loads.

And There I just worked as an operator for a few years and then started noticing behavior of equipment during changeovers, during certain materials.

And then what later then became my passion for operational excellence.

started with really seeing habits or patterns showing up.

really