Sergeant Ownby does a good job with this summary of who Lucas was and what he did.

[instrumental music] Let's just give you some background of this, of this individual.

He was born in Virginia, uh, I think in around 1936.

Born in Virginia.

He died in prison in March of, of, of 2001.

He was ended up, I, I think, actually convicted, right? I think he was actually convicted of, of, of 11 people.

So he was born in Virginia.

And then if you're that frustrated investigator somewhere else around the country and you get a call from Texas

Here's Covington Police Detective Bart Owenby

OwenbyDuring his arraignment for the murder of Kate in Williamson County, Texas, you know, he's in the courtroom and the judge is b- going through the motions and all that.

Well, Lucas makes some comments like, "Hey, what, what are we gonna do about these other 100 murders that I'm responsible for, right?" So of course, that kinda shuts everything down.

The judge is like, "Okay, well, we need to figure, we need to figure s- this out, right?" [laughs] So that's around when the Lucas Task Force was formed in Texas.