Maybe, you know, talk us through, you know, the early days, you know, when you really kind of took the full plunge, you know, from SecondMarket to building DCG and what that looked like.

Yeah.

So, um, yeah, so I heard about Bitcoin in 2011.

And I think, like most people, I was completely dismissive and skeptical, and I said, "There's no way that this thing is gonna be successful." And I think the, at the time, the price was, um, maybe, maybe $2, a dollar or $2.

Um, and I was like, I, I, I, I said, "This is, this is not gonna work." But I was like r- I thought that was such a cool idea, like decentralized digital money.

Um, and, and I just kind of kept on, I kept an eye on it.

There was...

What, what, you know, those two things, like what, you know, why there and how, who?