But private companies were already pouring money into hypersonic transport for passengers and cargo.

We have a lot of great things for our conventional and nuclear deterrent, obviously, here in the US, and so our role for hypersonics is different.

In a lot of ways, the commercial side was that we're falling behind, that we need to get more success.

He also aligned another hypersonics program to further our national security development in space.

There's a program called Mach TB that is basically a government test bed that's been set up to use commercial equities to drop the cost of testing and increase the cadence of testing.

And I got this program at DIU aligned with that effort, and we've got launches coming up immediately for that.