Yeah, yeah.

Like a sort of diesel... jump big sweatshirt diesel thing you know and he was and and and um and he was but but he was quite good funny well he wasn't he was heckling but he was but they were sort of back and forth um francis i don't even remember his name um and um and and he was he was good and i happened to by chance see him because as i was heading out and uh and uh and he you know and he loved it and thought it was all part of you know sometimes it's done without malice obviously and people think it's just part of the show and sometimes it can totally work to your advantage and something will happen in the audience where you know i've had on the tour where people have been sat in someone else's seats or they've double sold a seat or something you know and there's been like a whole sort of commotion going on and you can sort of if the audience are on side and it's and it's fun i think it's when it when it gets just disruptive for everyone and when you've got group of quite often it might be a group of single sex as well men or women and Or the worst were Christmas time when you were doing gigs.

Around Christmas time could be awful because you'd have lots of works parties in where every combination of things that could go wrong and things that aren't conducive to a good comedy night.

People that don't know each other that well, so they might be reluctant to know what they should laugh at in front of their colleagues or boss.

people who might not often go out and drink and are drinking, people that might not often go out and drink, but they're getting free drink on the company.

And then that recipe, you know, someone who just thinks they're the office joker, whatever, all of those things put together and you're suddenly, I mean, sometimes you're playing to, I mean, I can remember doing a gig.

There was a notorious gig called Up the Creek in Maidstone.

So how did that how did that come about? The three of you? Obviously, you said you were you were at college with with Mark.