Mm-hmm.

We love, all of us-Love a genuine, authentic relationship with our spouse, with our boyfriend, with friends, with, I mean, it just feels so good that we're not alone in this world, you know, that, that there's someone who loves us and cares for us, warts and all.

And that that drive is the number one drive in our lives beyond our basic needs.

And so when we have been told or we have believed that we're not good enough and we're separate from other people, that's a very visceral human, uh, separation that's very painful.

And then if we add to it all the reasons why, which usually come down to criticisms of ourselves, that's, uh, what's wrong with us, and then we unload and blame on other people, then it just sets in a spiral of very toxic, very debilitating, um, emotions, thoughts, disempowering, shame, you know, shaming kinds of things, and then if we allow that to be a pattern.

But that's the reason that it's so painful, and that, that's why we worry about what other people think, because we think that what they think empowers us.

But if you go back to what I was saying about your passion, your purpose, what's important to you, do you, those kinds of things, then-- And, and not being judgmental for us, not being judgmental of other people, that's a huge-- that's was or is a huge one for me.

When did you realize that understanding and dedicating this chapter of your career to the nervous system and to the way that it interacts in with our performance, when did you realize that that was important?