So what are your thoughts on what healthy ambition should look like in practice?

Yeah.

I never ask women I'm working with to want less.

Sometimes I do say you can have everything you want, but not necessarily all at the same time.

I heard that years ago.

I wish I could cite who said it and give credit to them.

I don't remember, but it's something that I held on to myself when I was the mother of young children and I was trying to make it in a pretty grueling environment.

So can you tell us what those foundations are?