Mm.

They want a country where people have a good live life, where people can express themselves, where people can, uh, be safe, right? Most people have the same objective, but they have very different ways of how do we achieve that.

And we stay in the conversations in the differences, as opposed into the, what we have in common.

Because we get stuck in the stories that, you know, I'm right, you're wrong, and you are this and that.

But if we open up to the possibility that most people are well-intentioned.

Most people don't wake up in the morning and say, "Today, I'm gonna be, you know, a jerk.

Today, I'm gonna be, uh, I'm gonna boycott someone." Like mo- and even at work, most people don't do that.

Mm-hmm.