... usually people come to you with a sketch, and they say, "We want that"?

No, no.

I will have a gallery rep or we created over the years really nice network of designers and architects, and they will say, "Hey, I have...

I'm doing this client's house.

Can I send you a picture of the living room? I envision something there." So I always require pic- couple pictures from different angles.

Show me what's around, what colors they use, what patterns they use.

And then on computer I just do renderings, couple different proposals.

I think that was just our-

[laughs]

... uh, after we got done looking at those, uh, and visiting with the guy that was running the office, they have the old Tonopah cemetery next door.

So we thought we'd walk around in the, in the, in that cemetery, and I was looking at one grave, and now that I look back, um, I was using my ghost meter and, uh, there was a spirit around that grave.

And as I walked away, the, uh, spirit seemed to be following me, so I talked to them and said they couldn't follow me, they couldn't, uh, come, uh, out of the cemetery.

This is where they belong.

Yeah, I've heard of her, yes.

Yeah, yeah.

And so we walked around and we found her, uh, gravestone and, uh, kind of read it and, and then, uh, I said to my family, "I need a minute." And so I took the stones and I set them on the, on, on the, uh, gravestone and I apologized and, uh, you know, I said I was, that was very ignorant to do what I did and I'm really sorry, I apologize.