And you know that attitude doesn't foster innovation doesn't foster artistry, or what have you so how do we sort of break through that recognizing limitations in the current environment that we have to make sure that we are raising the next generation of artists.

I think it sets up a position of this or that, which I don't think is real.

If you look at the advance of technology, for example, right? We need artists and creative folks who can adapt and help to give information to the AI platform so that good information can come out.

And I think the arts can do that.

It can teach us to be adaptive.

It can teach us to be resilient.

And so I don't know if the positioning of this versus that is helpful.

But if we don't go, if we don't participate and support the artists and the organizations in our communities, then they really are challenged to continue to sustain their work and practice.

How do we break through that, recognizing limitations in the current environment that we have to make sure that we are raising the next generation of artists?

I think it sets up a position of this or that, which I don't think is real.

If you look at the advance of technology, for example, right? We need artists and creative folks who can adapt and help to give information to the AI platform so that good information can come out.

And I think the arts can do that.

It can teach us to be adaptive.

It can teach us to be resilient.

And so I don't know if the positioning of this versus that is helpful.

But if we don't go, if we don't participate and support the artists and the organizations in our communities, then they really are challenged to continue to sustain their work and practice.