But given two teams in your team's division are now without their starting quarterbacks right now, how does that affect the way you view your Cowboys outlook?

Oh, it doesn't change anything.

I'm a little disappointed because we got our face back against the Giants.

I wanted to get some of that dart.

You dig? Wanted to get a little bit of that.

You dig? But he, you know, he got up out there.

We'll see him next season.

outlook?

Like they, a lot of people thought they just kind of pulled you out there, but you've been doing that for a while before you became the six man Carolina, right?

Oh no, no doubt about it.

And like, I was, I would be so frustrated because I would go to late night and at late night, I would just I would sit in the stands with my son or my friends, wherever I would go with.

And I would honestly visualize myself on the floor like screaming, Tar Heels.

Like I would I would I would I could see it.

I could feel it.

And I would be so frustrated because they would normally have a host for late night who has star power as a former player, but didn't have the skill set to actually host an event.

Living it.

Dot, would you like to explain the rules of Grammar School before we get things rolling?

You weren't on the air, Josh, so I was listening to another sports radio show.

And some guy was on there talking about how he needed, in essence, grammar school.

And I wish that I could have called.

I wish I could have even remembered who this gentleman was to call and say, hey, you should listen to Josh Graham because he was just complaining about how he doesn't know the nomenclature of the Gen Z population when they're talking.

And I said, man.

If you just listen to grammar school, that's what this segment is all about.

What's more important on this Labor Day weekend to BDOT? Going to the beach or watching week one of college football?

How have you made sense of this?

Um, I love it for Seth, actually.

Uh, you and I had a brief conversation offline where I was just sharing with you that I don't think he could've increased his stock any at Carolina.

Like, he's already a legend.

He's got a freaking Ben & Jerry's.

He hit the shot you just spoke about.

His last shot in the Smith Center arguably was beating Duke in, um, for senior night type foolishness.

It's, it might be the most-

How has your opinion changed on the matchup between the Carolina Hurricanes and the Las Vegas Golden Knights, Dot?

It, it hasn't, man.

Listen, let's go 'Canes.

You understand what I'm saying? And I don't care who we play.

We could play the Sacramento.

It doesn't matter who plays in the, in the, in the finals against my dagone Hurricanes.

All I know is we gonna come down there and hit more three pointers and score more touchdowns than anybody else out there on the ice.

Would you like to explain the rules to the uninitiated, Dot?

If you were LaMelo, who's being investigated for the trip of Bam Adebayo, what would be your defense,

Dot? It was just in the play of basketball, man.

It was definitely no malicious intent involved.

Like, it wasn't a grab of the ankle and try to pull him down.

He's already falling back.

I'm falling back.

I got two knees in the back of my head.

It looked like he didn't even want to guard either.

at any point uh it's just John having an awkward smile in the face of something incredibly shocking playing out right in front of him which was his team losing at the horn in the presence of Linnell Willingham and Denton Day who were both there in DC what did you enjoy most about Duke's loss against UConn

Just how unexpected it was.

It was a real treat for a Carolina fan like myself.

You know, I'm sitting there every game just hoping they lose and just silently rooting for the other team.

And, you know, when they went up so many points, I was like, dang, man, like, this really might be the team.

And this is the team.

I'd already saw them in the Final Four playing against Illinois and seeing how bad they would beat Illinois and thinking, gosh, man, if we would have handled business, then we could have been the team they faced again in the Final Four.

Speaking of Hubert Davis, have you settled on a coach that you've convinced yourself North Carolina is going to get?

How have you processed Hubert's dismissal? And do you have a preference for how the team should move forward?

Don't really have a preference right now.

Still a bit emotionally attached to the situation, man.

Hubert Davis was responsible for one of the greatest three-year spectrums of my life, like being able to be the arena host, to go from a fan to actually being able to touch the court that Stuart Scott touched and be able to engage in 21,000 Tar Heel fans, 16 games a year for three seasons, man.

That's the epitome of fandom.

And HD gave me that opportunity.

And to know him as a person and to know him just as a man, it was difficult to process.

I

Why would you say that?

Well, there are four reasons, man.

If you follow Caleb Wilson's story, man, you know that he, unlike many other freshmen, he really enjoys being a college kid.

He enjoys being a Carolina kid.

He enjoys being able to put belts on.

to competition as he prophesied at the beginning of the season.

And when he started, he actually started doing that.

risk,

Bro,

bring it on.

And like you just said, we aren't afraid to bring the fight to Detroit, figuratively and whatever that other word is.

Listen, the moral of the story is we don't mind fighting them, whether it's throwing fisticuffs or getting physical in the paint.

And we got scores.

We can match up with them great, Josh.

Please do not underestimate the Charlotte Hornets in an 8-1 matchup versus Detroit.

Duke, Arizona, Michigan.

How do you rank the top four guys who are going to presumably go top four in this year's NBA draft?

Um...

I psychologically on our podcast with me and PJ and Des, we talk down on Caleb Wilson because we don't want Caleb to get the big head and then people start knowing that he's great.

And then he's going to go number one overall.

So we say he's the seventh best freshman in the country right now.

Honestly, knowing that he's definitely top three.

But honestly, if I had to answer your question, my top four that I like, man, of course, is AJ, Caleb, Boozer, and Kingston, man.

He takes us to grammar school.

So rather than set you up for an answer we already know the answer to, or for a question we already know the answer to, How optimistic are you about your Tar Heels as they face a top five Blue Devil team Saturday at the Smith

Center? I'm optimistic that we can show up.

You know, I'm hoping that we come out there and we can hit free throws, something that we have not been able to do during conference play.

I'm hoping that we can finish a game, play 40 minutes the way we played the first 30 minutes against Syracuse or the way we played the last 20 minutes against Cal.

Like, I'm wishing that we could just play a full 40 minutes.

And if we could play a full 40 minutes, man, I'm pretty sure that we can go out there and we can get a dove in the Dane Dome, man, and just have a great time, be on Franklin Street, flipping cars, setting things on fire, women being topless.

It's a great time, man, when you beat Duke.

Andy didn't know what scratch was.

Tell us about, I didn't know, maybe you didn't either, Dot, before we get going.

Yeah, man, it's a very transparent podcast.

Very ignorantly, there is a lot of Black history that I didn't know.

Maybe you didn't either.

And we go through that journey together.

We've been going through it for the past four years.

This is season five.

Being that you were boys of Chris Paul, still are, did you ever cross paths with LeBron?

So before we get to grammar school, what's caught your interest in hoops right now?

How well my horn has been playing.

I know the world see it.

And you know what? You know what, Josh Graham? I found out that you're a pretty big deal, Josh Graham.

So my folks down in Atlanta hit me up and was like, yo, I heard you down here on a sports show.

I said, down in Atlanta? Y'all down in A? Y'all everywhere.

Westwood One.

not a pasty white guy.

Oh, yeah.

We're the biggest losers, man.

And I'm sick of it.

And I know, I know.

I know the average listener is like, "How idiotic can you be? How many times must you go through this before you know, hey, you're not gonna make the playoffs.

You're not gonna go back to another Super Bowl until Jerry Jones removes himself from making the moves." Listen, man, Cowboys Nation, we thought this was the one.

We finally had a running back back there.

What have they done this year? They, they were the last team in the tournament.