Did that same thing happen in L.A.?

Oh, yeah, it happened a lot from the very first tests of it.

The thing that makes Phasmagorica interesting is because it's plausible.

It's based on aspects of spiritualism, that idea that spirits can and will communicate with the living.

It's based on aspects of paramusicology that, like I said, Scriabin, that believes that music, sound, tones, frequencies can open portals to other worlds.

It's based upon collective will.

So you have like Alistair Crowley and John Dee.

But have you had people who have had like scary experiences or is it mostly people trying to connect with people that they loved and lost? And so there's kind of more of a yearning.