How does it feel to kind of perceive the changing sentiments?

I think it's, you know, it's been really interesting watching how like the pendulum is like swinging now.

Yeah.

Because I remember when Abolish ICE was, like, people who would say that were considered, like, too liberal, like, you're too out there, you're too left, you're too radical.

And now the conversation, and unfortunately it did take a few white folks to get killed for people to start paying attention, like, hey, they're actually terrorizing our community.

I mean, better late than never.

Yeah.

You mean this dude just showed up? And, like, 10 days in, started, like, getting things done.