So I moved, I was not an engineer, but you know, the production aspect of television.

So I was doing that.

So you talk about the good, the bad, the ugly.

So the good, it was iffy at the start.

If you didn't have the passion, you wouldn't stay.

Because it could be tasking, you know, like you were there.

Sometimes your production, you may have to stay overnight.

You have