So I love giving the listeners a little background and knowledge because it helps me when I listen to interviews like, okay, who is this person and how do I gauge what I'm hearing from them? So can you take us on a little journey about your background and how you got to where you are today?

Yeah, absolutely.

So I, long-time athlete, I actually grew up in Boston, Massachusetts, so I lived there the first seven years of my life.

Came over to Minnesota, lived in Roseville, Minnesota, which is just outside of St. Paul.

and just loved playing sports growing up.

I was really into basketball and baseball, kind of dabbled my feet in all types of sports, but those were the two that I really fell in love with.

Played basketball through high school all the way to varsity, and then ended up playing baseball at Hamlin University, so a small D3 school in St. Paul.

But what impact do you think that actually had on their own child when Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who hired, paid $1,500 to fly the plane over the field.

think kids

think of boredom as, as a bad thing.

And actually boredom is a luxury and someone is to actually be bored because that's where creativity happens.

That's where the ideas of actually making me think of two different clients.

So one just moved to Europe to play pro volleyball and she just got there and she's feeling anxious.

And I was like, you're in a new country.

You don't speak the language.

getting to be like, what