Who were your other musical confidants who you kind of pulled from

while you were up there at Berklee? I made a lot of music with Julian and then Ethan Satiwan.

Julian Pinelli, mandolin player Ethan Satiwan, Sam Leslie, and Dan Klingsberg as well.

I don't know if you've run into him at all.

That's the one guy of all those that I don't know.

I know Sam and Ethan.

Yeah, he's out playing bass with the Gnome and Friends tour right now.

trying to leave the question pretty open.