And she gets a lot out of her single most beloved genre.

You get to learn a lot about yourself and your own personal journey by going on journeys with other main characters, whether it be men or women, overthrowing corrupt governments and kingdoms and learning about trauma and healing from growing up in oppressive families and sibling rivalries.

So it's really my jam.

But those love stories themselves have been life-changing for her.

Definitely reading the books.

made me reevaluate what I was accepting when I was dating.

It made me realize that I was accepting less than what I deserved.

And so I learned that and I started really kind of politely demanding more.

Um, Autumn, uh, uh, sorry to, to do the detour before, uh, getting to you, but last but certainly not least, um, Autumn, can you introduce yourself too?

Yeah, for sure.

Um, thanks for having me.

And Chris, I just want to say, um, making video games is literally rocket science, so it makes sense that your big dream pipeline would go from being an astronaut [laughs] to making games.

Um, so my name is Autumn Mitchell.

I, um, was a senior quality assurance tester level two at, uh, ZeniMax, and I'd been at ZeniMax for, um, maybe five years if I include my time there, um, that w- that I spent there as a contractor.

And, um-

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