How did you even get interested in that and then grow it to be this successful business where you're positively impacting so many people's lives? You're so nice.

Oh my God.

Because I don't view it like that at all.

But I have been doing it so long.

So I actually moved back to Ohio for a little bit.

And I remember I didn't have a job.

And it was after Apple.

But you, on top of that, you had... an absolutely terrifying birth experience so i was wondering if you would be open to sharing what happened