It's a

win-win.

Okay, Aubrey, what did you learn? Well, as you know, I was beside myself with a wealth of information that I was provided at this gathering of experts.

I had a lot of things that I was really focused on.

And the top few, first of all, I was really fascinated by the studies of the knockout pigs, the gal-safe pigs that do not themselves have alpha-gal.

And then we're sort of induced to have alpha-gal sensitization and looking at what happened to heart valves.

I thought that was really fascinating.

So how do you balance that?