But when you got into mainstream education, you got into primary school, then after that to secondary school, when you're there, when you were at that stage of your life, were there any moment that you ever feel that maybe I should do something else in my career?

Okay.

So I guess, yeah, growing up, once you got into poly, after you finish your O-levels, that's when you... start to see the real world a little bit more.

And then you realize maybe zookeeper isn't like the best job if you want to work with animals to do more.

Okay.

Why, why, why, why? That's interesting.

Why do you say that? First off, the zoo is very far away.

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