Now, what happens when you take that same spirit of community building and apply it to starting a new life in a new city? Astrid Thackeray moved to London, pregnant, during a pandemic, knowing nobody, and what she created from that starting point might just surprise you.

Yeah, so it's funny, community, because we spoke about community when we chatted the other day, right? And I guess when I reflect on what I've been up to over the last few years, community is a huge theme.

And I would say that I wear three hats.

So I've, well, three hats plus also I'm a mum, but so three hats being...

The work that I'm doing with the Italian government at the moment.

So I'm, I'm working to attract investment into Italy and that, that in itself is a bit, is a bit community based because essentially you're trying to connect the Italian business community in London with the investment community and the business community.

Right.