Um, I guess, you know, maybe just since you guys are from eastern Kentucky, hail from there, like, what's, what's eastern Kentucky to you all? How would you guys describe it to people that are listening, since that's where, that's where you all are from?

I mean, to me, there's no place like home.

I mean, we've traveled n- you know, not as much as other people, but we've traveled a lot, and there's no other place like eastern Kentucky, to me at least.

You know, say, coming home from Nashville, as soon as you hit off the Mountain Parkw-

... until I corrupted him as a musician.

And then, you know, I think the SteelDrivers were who got me into it really.

But yeah, before that, like, my brother Jagger, who's the bass player, he would always, you know, be listening to Ralph Stanley or Lonesome River Band or somebody like that.

And me and him would s- fight so much just over the radio.

How can I help you today?

My roommate told me that someone called yesterday asking for me about some sort of payment that, that's due, and I just, uh...

I, could I take care of that now?

Mm.

There's a four in there somewhere.

I don't know.

I just...

I haven't really gotten around to it.

What is that?

And I'm not, like, and look, we're not techy guys.

We don't claim to be ethical hackers or anything like that.

There's a million other channels and a lot of other scam baiters that are way smarter at that.

We're more boots on the ground documentarians, but, uh, we, we do understand the basics of it, and we have friends that we can call if we have a question.

But VPN is a pretty basic way for you to encrypt your presence online.

So when you're connecting, especially if you're using public Wi-Fi.

So how do you-