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Ashok Kumar Gupta

Ashok Kumar Gupta

Former chairperson of the Competition Commission of India

Oct 6, 2026

4:44
You've dealt with chronic fatigue, so I'd love for you to share your story.
4:51
Yeah, absolutely.
4:52
So my story started in the late '90s.
4:54
So I was studying as an undergrad at Cambridge, and I was burning the candle at both ends, so I was, uh, probably partying a little too hard and working and getting stressed by the coursework as well.
5:05
And I got some kind of virus, and I didn't know what caused the virus.
5:09
I just thought it's perfectly, perfectly normal.
5:12
And I didn't seem to recover from the virus, and I just got more and more fatigued, more and more exhausted, brain fog, difficulty thinking, physical ailments and tightness in the muscles to the point at which, you know, I almost couldn't get to the bathroom.

13 MINS LATER

18:38
Is it a complement? Is it a first step before trying medical care? Where does it fit in?
0:00
From an evolutionary biology perspective, most of our modern maladies now make sense from that perspective, where the system doesn't care about your wellbeing, it cares about your survival.
0:09
So it will always err on the side of caution and can create downstream issues which don't make you feel good, but essentially are prioritizing survival.
0:18
We've been trained in a particular type of way in modern medicine to think of the body like a car.
0:23
That the...
0:23
Something goes wrong with the tires, we fix the tires.
0:25
Something goes wrong with the part of the engine, we fix the engine.

22 MINS LATER

22:10
Does the brain learn the same way from a biophysical versus a, a, a, a, a, uh, emotional, uh, type stressor?
22:16
Yes.
2:19
Mm
2:19
... always nice to center, so we just take a... our eyes closed for a moment.
2:23
Uh, just having that bodily awareness and just becoming aware of our legs and our body.
2:32
We can take a slow, deep, deep breath in from the stomach.
2:40
And holding the breath, breathing out slowly through the nose in a controlled way.
2:51
Just bringing ourselves to the present moment.
2:58
Another slow, deep breath in.

5 MINS LATER

8:31
I'm really curious what that, how that unfolded.

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