So I'd be really curious for you, you know, when you think about like, what is scrupulosity? What is OCD? Maybe we'll just start there.

Yeah, absolutely.

So OCD, right, is when I have obsessions and obsessions can be in the form of thoughts or urges or images, often unwanted, that I feel won't leave my mind.

And in order to neutralize those thoughts, images, urges, or make them go away, I will do a compulsion, right? And I'm not saying I, just me, but any person that has it, right? Like, only me, I am OCD, no.

Right.

But but one will do a compulsion and it provides temporary relief, which is why it is so hard to break the cycle.

Right.

You know, what would you say to the or recommend to those people?

Mm.

So obsessive compulsive disorder, right? And so a lot of times when we hear OCD, right, we think of people that maybe have a lot of fear of germs or need things in a particular order, and those certainly can be, um, types of, of OCD that we see.

There's many, many types of OCD, but right, we see that cycle.

We see this, "I have this obsession.

Do I have germs on my hands? I have anxiety.

I better do this particular ritual to get clean again.

I feel better for a minute.

Yeah.