What exactly was the stunt you decided that you would do?

Okay, so what happened was I, and the thing is, I don't even know that much about basketball, which maybe is evident in the rest of the story.

But basically, I'm on a group thread with a few guys.

And once in a while, we'll send a basketball clip or something to that thread and people respond.

And someone sent a clip of Ja Morant of the Memphis Grizzlies doing, I think it's called a double pump reverse pump.

I forget what it's called.

It's one of the most impressive dunks of all time, which I later learned from someone who does know more about basketball.

And then how does the book happen?

That's for you.

Yeah.

Um, but, uh, yeah, I definitely...

I feel like, like anything, the more I do it, the less any individual thing feels important.

Like this is true of, of, of all creative projects.

Like the, you know, the first...

You do it once and you're like, "Wow, I really, this has to be perfect.

Fuck.

Yeah, that's huge

... just felt really good.

But that's more about ego than it is about the work.

I think as far as the work goes, we were doing 15 shows a week, which was more than I was doing when I was in Chicago, and there was something really nice about doing that number of shows for a gen pop audience.

So these aren't other comedians.

When you're, when you're first coming up, you're mostly doing improv for either students or other people who are doing improv.

So this was 15 shows a week for a gen pop audience, and I do think that that is really useful in learning what is funny, w- sort of, like what is the taste of actual people in, in real time.

Um, maybe you could just share that little bit.