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Ash Perrin

Ash Perrin

Founder and CEO of The Flying Seagull Project, a UK charity bringing play, circus and laughter to children affected by conflict, displacement and crisis worldwide; TEDx speaker and author of 'The Real Play Revolution'.

Sep 16, 2026

50:29
And I wonder whether or how you saw that happening already, how you see that creativity starting to transform things in a big way, or where do you see the big potential for that kind of creative thought changing things in a really transformative way?
50:45
Well, I mean, it's interesting, isn't it? Because every...
50:48
I mean, a lot of the book when I was writing the book, actually, I kind of almost got to the point that I thought this is a joke.
50:53
I could write it in one sentence, which is, you know, and it was like I'm doing this huge explanation, making such a lot of complexity out of something which is really simple, which is that every idea is essentially an act of play of the mind.
51:07
And everything that's ever been invented from a hot air balloon to a laptop to laser eye surgery, all of that really is an act of practical, creative imagination coupled with self-belief, probably a load of money in convincing other people, too, and then making it happen.
51:23
So, yeah, in terms of changing the world, I mean, obviously, we have to look at doing things differently.
51:28
And I think this is where creativity plays even more part in terms of breaking what's considered to be like convention or norm.

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61:10
How might you bring in some more play and imagination just on that personal level?

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