Congratulations! Oh my gosh, that's so exciting.

Thank you, Cameron.

And what's really cool about it is like, you know, every guy I dated in the past, everyone would say to him like, well, how are you ever going to propose to this woman who's like seen it all, experienced it all? And, you know, and I've always kind of said to myself, like, I never really thought about my own proposal.

because I just I'm always in the seat of like this objective observer like I'm really holding my client's hand through the process like I tell him everything that I've seen you know that doesn't work what works all this and I'm always like trying to get other people to stay out of it like I'm like don't be influenced by family or friends like stick to your heart stick to what's true to you as a couple but I didn't really give much thought to mine and then lo and behold my partner takes me last week to California on this little romantic getaway.

And I knew it was coming, but I just didn't know how he was going to do it or when.

And he ended up telling me we were going to go to this beautiful botanical garden.

And I'm like, okay.

about what I do or

while making sure that the couple is still the center of this decision that they are making today?

I love that question, Pesa.

That's a...

And I've never been asked that before, and it's something that comes up a lot in my work.

It's, we've had a lot of situations exactly what you're talking about.

And I can share a couple stories if that's also helpful.

I had, I have people from all different kind of backgrounds and traditions.

Yes

So what would you tell them? What would you tips would you give them to proceed with that proposal? And especially if they're women.

Like what do they do? Yeah, absolutely.

So like I can definitely speak to the man proposing and the woman receiving a proposal or a woman proposing to a woman, you know, like that happens too.

And there's women who propose to men as well.

We've had like a few come through, but it's not like the most popular thing.

So yeah.

So, you know, number one, if you're a woman and who is hoping to get engaged you know in the next whatever time I think it's really good like or if you let's say you're dating and you're just like but you know you want to get engaged like within you know you don't want to be a single forever you don't want to be a girlfriend forever I think it's really important to be clear about your desires like from the get-go Like, not waste time.

What kind of timelines are typical of, you know, what when you're setting up from the moment you meet the client to when it actually happens?