Yeah.

But did that impact me or the industry in any significant way? Not really.

I think I have other stories because this is where my career went from being...

I was a highly productive software engineer who could build interesting things fast to...

But when I got over to MSN, I ran one of the divisions.

But MSN was a series of independently operating product units.

There was no integration between them.

ultimately became the main login for everything for Microsoft, yes.