What do you do, and how did you get there?

Sure.

So it's always been difficult since I left information technology consulting to describe what I do.

as a position because there isn't really one.

So I just kind of call myself a storyteller.

I really believe, and this is really driven home by Yuval Noah Harari's book, Sapiens, that stories are the way that human beings define their relationship with the world.

And looking back through my entire life, I've always been in love with storytelling and I've always been a storyteller for good, bad and ugly.

Yay, Arnie.

Mm-hmm.

And these guys were, like, hardcore, straight-up terrorists.

They, they knocked over an armored car.

They stole, like, $14 million.

They murdered a Jewish radio host.

They were g- like, organizing these terror cells to commit widespread acts of white nationalist terror throughout the country, and one of the...

W- they're all ultimately taken down by the FBI, thank God.

Yeah.