And how do we see this sector playing out?

Software in the high-yield market is quite small.

It's 3% to 5%.

In the broadly syndicated loan market, it is oscillated between 12% and 15%.

Typically, the number two industry allocation in broadly syndicated loans after healthcare services.

In direct lending, it varies very broadly.

It could be as low as 9% or 10%.

It seems now credit.