And you were like, oh, whoa, this feels different.

Yeah, I've been so used to being so competitive and just wanting to win, and it's driven me for so long.

I don't think I realized how... important.

Just, I mean, and I can't say that like winning the gold was like necessary, you know, but I think that quest for gold was really, you know, what drove me for so long and how good can I be? And I really wanted to go to Tokyo.

Um, I was going to be 38 or 39, but I just still felt like I had more in me to prove.

And so that was my driving force.

And then after getting the gold, it was, you know, kind of like, okay, check.

Do you think that lack of U.S. success in Paris was tough luck? Was it an off year? Is there something more at play?