Yeah.

And so I kept...

That, that sort of motivated me, I feel like, to work on it.

But in the beginning, it was completely intuitive.

I mean, I was absolutely reading books and reading what other people said and trying to figure out what, um...

And a lot of the recipes were, you know, you add the pack of pectin.

And, and my, my mom, we didn't use pectin.

Yeah.