So with this said, like, how has this dynamic played out in your life? Like, how have you endured pressure with your own life to build a successful career as a hip hop producer and presumably, you know, live out your dream?

Bro, I've worked hard for everything, man.

I've worked hard for everything [laughs] that I have, man, and so I know what it's like to be coal.

The coal, the very beginning, man, you know? And then going through the pressure of finally, and I don't even know if I'm a diamond yet, but just finally, you know, turning into a diamond, and it takes the 10,000 hours, the 20,000 hours of practice, man.

You know, they say 10,000 but really to me it's like, yo, it's 20,000, man.

It's like you gotta y- you know, being able to hone your craft, man, and do the right things, be around the right people, you know, rub elbows, learning how to do things that you're uncomfortable doing.

You know, it, there's a lot more to it than just, just making music and making beats, man.

Mm