Hmm.

Um, I- there were a lot of clients that were coming in, um, and, uh, you know, having studied dietetics and running in weight-loss clinics and, and bariatric surgery, I, I felt like I was giving the best kind of care available.

Uh, and at the same time, there were several patients, a significant proportion of the patients, who weren't getting what they wanted from the intervention.

Um, so many patients weren't expecting the weight loss that we would have anticipated at that point in time.

Um, and I also noticed that people were becoming, some people were becoming more focused on the scales, what it means, um, would come into the clinic room and hop on the scales, and whether it went up or stayed the same or went down, that would dictate the entire session.

Um, and it was quite, there was quite a lot of emotion there.

Um, and you know, initially I thought, "Okay, am I doing something wrong here?" You know, "Is this something to do with what I'm doing?" And then I started looking to the research and, and realizing that actually weight-loss medications at the time, weight-loss interventions, uh, you know, as we all have done, us working this sphere, um, we kind of started to see the wood from the trees, and that it's not actually straightforward, that the, the panacea of weight loss, you know, it's, it's, it's...

So it's important to keep saying we're a broken record, and almost all the people I interview on GLP-1 say the same thing because there's very little evidence.

Are you able to share for what you've noticed with those side effects and people that you've supported?

Yeah.

And just to reiterate what you're saying as well, my approach, and I think we'd probably be quite similar, is it's very high autonomy approach.

I'm not someone who is making you take these medications and I am not forcing you to stop these medications.

And I think it's really important that people feel in the driving seat of their care.

And part of that is sharing information about these drugs and why doing a podcast like this can be really helpful with that as well.

In terms of how this can show up for people who are on the medications, I think it's really worth, if possible, I mean, I started off by saying again that these drugs are everywhere.

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