So I wanted to ask you from your vantage point in both nutrition and public health, what are your three biggest concerns right now and why these particular three?

Thanks, Mary Ellen.

First of all, I want to say that I'm actually really thrilled that food, nutrition and public health is in the mainstream conversation as much as it is right now.

And also in the political dialogue like never before.

It's really a phenomenal thing to see that.

However, you know, with that, I think is with that, we're also seeing emerging challenges.

And I'll mention a few that are that are concerning.

well great answer um and kind of to go back to that idea that you alluded to a little bit scientific rigor when you say scientific rigor especially in food and nutrition how would you define that