Did you always know that you wanted to be a scientist?

I actually, it's kind of a very funny story because maybe that will, you know, that will speak to a lot of people that are there and that try to be, you know, don't know what to do really.

And I, you know, I kind of grew up in social service a lot.

So being involved in a lot of things.

kind of like organizations that help, that help people on a community basis.

So I was involved in the army for like almost like 20 years.

I was in the army.

How did you end up in Mexico?