Is that something also that you see?

Well, of course, if you look back at the history of the game, it started in Europe and Europe was the spreading agent of football, in particular the British Empire.

both the formal and the informal empire, including South America, was the most important vector for spreading the game.

Also socially, it moved from a sort of elite game in colleges and universities in England to the working class worldwide, especially in Europe, mining center, ports, industrial cities, and so on and so forth.

It took roots in the Austro-Hungarian empire, between the two worlds, The countries that were the heirs to the Austro-Hungarian Empire were world powers in football.

And for a long time, it became a sort of bipolar world.

The two poles being Europe in general and South America.

So how do you see not necessarily how football is being shaped by international politics, but is there some room for sports, especially the World Cup, to shape diplomacy and power in its own right?